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I enjoyed your take! I would observe one glaring hole in your census of Old American European ethnic groups: the Germans. They are the largest European ethnic group ancestry today. Huge numbers came in the 1800s and they had a singular effect on the American culture that would evolve post-Appomattox. In fact, I read in the past that there were something like over 100 German language newspapers in the various Midwest cities (and the Germans settled largely in a belt from Philadelphia to Milwaukee) on the eve of World War I. Because of propaganda in that war and the big rise in anti-German sentiment that came with it, they largely faded into the background post-war, and thoroughly intermarried with all the other European ethnics to escape the effects of that cultural isolation.

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This was so much fun to read. I’m the commenter who prompted Walt’s initial explanation on Substack, and you and Walt each separately convinced me. I have always thought of Family Guy as vaudevillian, and thus comprising an entangled web of WASP and Ellis Islander influences, but honestly even within that framework vaudeville was much more Ellis Islander in its comedic/storytelling sensibilities.

The Simpsons v Family Guy dichotomy has some parallels with Disney v Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies in the 1940s/1950s. Walt Disney was the WASP-coded giant that homogenized amidst pursuit of respectability after achieving international stature, while the lower prestige and more vaudeville/Ellis Islander influenced Looney Tunes shorts honed rapid-fire timing/dialogue, metamodern sensibilities, bawdy jokes, and shock value humor to stand out.

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